diff --git a/index.html b/index.html
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@@ -89,26 +89,26 @@ You can use this to track and report the data needed for tax reporting. Fill out
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 <td align="right">Code, committers</td>
-<td align="left">Mail list</td>
+<td align="left">Mail list, size</td>
 <td align="right">IRC, size</td>
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 <td align="left"><a href="http://ledger-cli.org">Ledger</a></td>
 <td align="right"><a href="https://github.com/ledger/ledger">C++</a> 101 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/ledger)) --></td>
-<td align="left"><a href="http://list.ledger-cli.org/">ledger-cli</a> <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.general)) --></td>
+<td align="left"><a href="http://list.ledger-cli.org/">ledger-cli</a> <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.general)) --> 750</td>
 <td align="right"><a href="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ledger&amp;randomnick=1">#ledger</a> 70</td>
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 <td align="left"><a href="http://hledger.org">hledger</a></td>
 <td align="right"><a href="http://code.hledger.org">Haskell</a> 30 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/hledger)) --></td>
-<td align="left"><a href="http://list.hledger.org/">hledger</a> <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.hledger)) --></td>
-<td align="right"><a href="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=hledger&amp;randomnick=1">#hledger</a> 20</td>
+<td align="left"><a href="http://list.hledger.org/">hledger</a> <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.hledger)) --> 80</td>
+<td align="right"><a href="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=hledger&amp;randomnick=1">#hledger</a> 25</td>
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 <td align="left"><a href="http://furius.ca/beancount">Beancount</a></td>
 <td align="right"><a href="http://bitbucket.org/blais/beancount/">Python</a> 8 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/beancount)) --></td>
-<td align="left"><a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beancount">beancount</a> <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.beancount)) --></td>
-<td align="right"><a href="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=beancount&amp;randomnick=1">#beancount</a> 1</td>
+<td align="left"><a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beancount">beancount</a> <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.beancount)) --> 70</td>
+<td align="right"><a href="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=beancount&amp;randomnick=1">#beancount</a> 5</td>
 </tr>
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 <td align="left">Abandon</td>
diff --git a/index.md b/index.md
index afc3c29..99142c8 100644
--- a/index.md
+++ b/index.md
@@ -131,13 +131,13 @@ Fill out and submit tax forms with another tool, or by hand.
 
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-|                                               | Code, committers                                                                                               | Mail list                                                                                                                            | IRC, size
-| [Ledger](http://ledger-cli.org)               | [C++](https://github.com/ledger/ledger)          101 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/ledger)) -->    | [ledger-cli](http://list.ledger-cli.org/) <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.general)) -->                 | [#ledger](http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ledger&randomnick=1)  70
-| [hledger](http://hledger.org)                 | [Haskell](http://code.hledger.org)                30 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/hledger)) -->   | [hledger](http://list.hledger.org/) <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.hledger)) -->                       | [#hledger](http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=hledger&randomnick=1)  20
-| [Beancount](http://furius.ca/beancount)       | [Python](http://bitbucket.org/blais/beancount/)    8 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/beancount)) --> | [beancount](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beancount) <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.beancount)) --> | [#beancount](http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=beancount&randomnick=1)  1
-| Abandon                                       | [Scala](https://github.com/hrj/abandon)            5 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/abandon)) -->   |                                                                                                                                      |
-| Ledger in Go                                  | [Go](https://github.com/howeyc/ledger)             2                                                           |                                                                                                                                      |
+|-----------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------:|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------:
+|                                               | Code, committers                                                                                               | Mail list, size                                                                                                                           | IRC, size
+| [Ledger](http://ledger-cli.org)               | [C++](https://github.com/ledger/ledger)          101 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/ledger)) -->    | [ledger-cli](http://list.ledger-cli.org/) <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.general)) -->                  750 | [#ledger](http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ledger&randomnick=1)        70
+| [hledger](http://hledger.org)                 | [Haskell](http://code.hledger.org)                30 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/hledger)) -->   | [hledger](http://list.hledger.org/) <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.ledger.hledger)) -->                         80 | [#hledger](http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=hledger&randomnick=1)      25
+| [Beancount](http://furius.ca/beancount)       | [Python](http://bitbucket.org/blais/beancount/)    8 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/beancount)) --> | [beancount](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beancount) <!-- ([gmane](http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.beancount)) -->   70 | [#beancount](http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=beancount&randomnick=1)   5
+| Abandon                                       | [Scala](https://github.com/hrj/abandon)            5 <!-- ([openhub](https://www.openhub.net/p/abandon)) -->   |                                                                                                                                           |
+| Ledger in Go                                  | [Go](https://github.com/howeyc/ledger)             2                                                           |                                                                                                                                           |
 
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