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 <li><a href="https://github.com/simonmichael/hledger/tree/master/hledger-api">hledger-api</a> JSON API + static file server (Haskell)</li>
 <li><a href="https://github.com/rstacruz/node-hledger">node-hledger</a> Node.js API (JavaScript)</li>
 </ul>
+<!--
+##### other console/curses tools
+
+- [Taskwarrior](http://taskwarrior.org) modern task manager
+- [add / tapecalc](http://invisible-island.net/add/add.html) dynamically updating tape calculator
+- [sc](http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10699) spreadsheet
+- [sc-im](https://github.com/andmarti1424/sc-im) update of sc
+- [GNU PEM & Oleo](http://www.examiner.com/article/gnu-pem-oleo-two-great-command-line-text-based-financial-accounting-apps) expenses manager, spreadsheet
+- the [org empire](http://orgmode.org)...
+-->
 <p><br></p>
 <h3 id="discussion">discussion</h3>
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 - [hledger-api](https://github.com/simonmichael/hledger/tree/master/hledger-api) JSON API + static file server (Haskell)
 - [node-hledger](https://github.com/rstacruz/node-hledger) Node.js API (JavaScript)
 
+<!--
+##### other console/curses tools
+
+- [Taskwarrior](http://taskwarrior.org) modern task manager
+- [add / tapecalc](http://invisible-island.net/add/add.html) dynamically updating tape calculator
+- [sc](http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10699) spreadsheet
+- [sc-im](https://github.com/andmarti1424/sc-im) update of sc
+- [GNU PEM & Oleo](http://www.examiner.com/article/gnu-pem-oleo-two-great-command-line-text-based-financial-accounting-apps) expenses manager, spreadsheet
+- the [org empire](http://orgmode.org)...
+-->
+
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 ### discussion